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Indra Widjaya Enthusiast 32 posts since
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Aug 12, 2009 9:48 PM

Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi All,

 

I see in the manual for IIWS installation prerequisite must have Atrium Core 7.5 (TIBCO stack) installed.

I'm using BEM 7.3.01 (for Event Mgmt only), so the requirement is BPM Portal 2.7.x will send to alert via IIWS to BEM 7.3.01.

So, will it be a must having Atrium Core for IIWS to work properly?

Tks in advance.

pplomteu Enthusiast 101 posts since
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1. Aug 13, 2009 7:10 AM in response to: Indra Widjaya
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hello,

 

Yes, this is correct - you will need Atrium Core to be installed for IIWS 7.3.01.

 

Thank you

Philippe  Plomteux

BEM/SIM Product Manager

lgplaza Enthusiast 54 posts since
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2. Aug 13, 2009 4:02 PM in response to: pplomteu
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi Philippe,

 

But the non Tibco version is still supported, isn't it?

 

 

Thanks,

Laura

Marc Victor Participant 22 posts since
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3. Sep 30, 2009 3:38 AM in response to: pplomteu
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi Philippe,

 

Hold on .. I hope I'm reading this wrong.

Are you saying that if I need to use IIWS to integrate BEM 7.3.01 and Portal I need an installation of CMDB (requires ARS, requires, DB, requires o/s, requires h/w, requires masses of additional costs) ..... How do you justify such a requirement where there were no additional cost for using IIWS in the past?

 

Regards,

Marc Victor

Antonius Sony Enthusiast 49 posts since
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4. Nov 3, 2009 9:55 PM in response to: Marc Victor
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi Marc,

 

For supporting IIWS as the integration between BPM and BEM, you can install only Atrium web service infrastructure (Atrium Core) instead of full component of atrium cmdb.

 

right now the version is 7.6.00 for IIWS 7.3.02.

 

Rgds,

Marc Victor Participant 22 posts since
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5. Nov 4, 2009 12:09 AM in response to: Antonius Sony
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi Antonius,

 

Yes, I understand that only web services are required.

 

But during the install you are required to specify the db of ARS .... well .... that's just the point ... I don't have ARS or a db ..... I just want Web Services.

 

How do you get to install only the Web Services?

 

Regards,

Marc

Antonius Sony Enthusiast 49 posts since
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6. Nov 4, 2009 12:17 AM in response to: Marc Victor
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi Marc,

 

Did you run setup_ws_stack.sh instead of setup.sh ?

 

Rgds,

Sony

Marc Victor Participant 22 posts since
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7. Nov 4, 2009 12:25 AM in response to: Antonius Sony
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi Antonius,

 

It's Windows ... but, yes ... I did run setup_ws_stack.cmd ... that also asks for a db.

 

Rgs,

Marc

Antonius Sony Enthusiast 49 posts since
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9. Nov 4, 2009 12:46 AM in response to: Marc Victor
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Did you mean, you got System Requirement that has the statement? just click Next and continue.

anyway, I use HSQLDB as the database for my environment.

 

rgds,

Marc Victor Participant 22 posts since
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10. Nov 4, 2009 2:44 AM in response to: Indra Widjaya
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi Indra,

 

That works. Thanks.

 

Marc

Marc Victor Participant 22 posts since
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11. Nov 6, 2009 4:58 AM in response to: Marc Victor
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi Guys,

 

So, now that you reboot the server, the TIBCO Administrator Service does not start beacause the HSQLDB is not started at reboot time, one must manualy logon and start the HSQLDB (OMG .... what is BMC coming to )

 

I tried creating a service for the amx-db.exe, but the error event returned is "The HSQLDB Server service failed to start due to the following error:
The service did not respond to the start or control request in a timely fashion"

The service was created using:

sc create HSQLDB_Server binPath= "C:\Program Files\BMC Software\AtriumCore\wsc\tibco\amx\hsqldb\bin\amx-db.exe" DisplayName= "HSQLDB Server" start= auto

 

I also tried amx-db -install ( --- that didn't do much)

 

Any recommendations?

 

Marc

smundy HotShot 221 posts since
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12. Nov 6, 2009 5:23 AM in response to: Marc Victor
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi Marc,

 

create a windows bat file with the following contents:

 

net stop HSQLService
hsql.exe -uninstall HSQLService
set BMC_WEB_SERVICES=C:/Program Files/BMC Software/AtriumCore/vm-w23-rds433/wsc/tibco/components/eclipse/plugins/com.tibco.tpcl.org.hsqldb_1.8.0.010
set DATABASE=../data/amx
rem set DATABASE=C:/Program Files/BMC Software/AtriumCore/vm-w23-rds433/wsc/tibco/amx/hsqldb/data/amx
set CURRENTDIR=C:/Program Files/BMC Software/AtriumCore/vm-w23-rds433/wsc/tibco/amx/hsqldb/bin
hsql.exe -install HSQLService "%JAVA_HOME%\jre\bin\server\jvm.dll" -jvm_option -Xms16m -Xmx128m -Djava.class.path=".;%BMC_WEB_SERVICES%\hsqldb.jar" -jvm_option -Dsystem.drive="c:" -start org.hsqldb.Server -params -database %DATABASE% -out "%CURRENTDIR%/service.out" -err "%CURRENTDIR%/service.err" -current "%CURRENTDIR%"
net start HSQLService

 

edit the following paths :

 

set BMC_WEB_SERVICES=C:/Program Files/BMC Software/AtriumCore/vm-w23-rds433/wsc/tibco/components/eclipse/plugins/com.tibco.tpcl.org.hsqldb_1.8.0.010

 

set CURRENTDIR=C:/Program Files/BMC Software/AtriumCore/vm-w23-rds433/wsc/tibco/amx/hsqldb/bin

 

Where C:\Program Files\BMC Software\AtriumCore is the <Atrium WSC install directory> and vm-w23-rds433 is the <servername>

 

then run the bat file. If you don't have hsql.exe then let me know and I will email that to you.

 

thanks, Steve

Marc Victor Participant 22 posts since
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13. Nov 6, 2009 6:53 AM in response to: smundy
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi Steve,

Can't find hsql.exe anywere in the installation, is it part of the CMDB patch2 install?

If not, please e-mail to me.

Tx,

Marc

bmyrup@grundfos.com Participant 4 posts since
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14. Nov 10, 2009 3:21 AM in response to: Marc Victor
Re: Is Atrium Core a must prerequisite for IIWS to work properly

Hi,

 

I tried the script, it installs the service.

But the service starts and then immediately stops, what am I missing ?

 

I found the hsql.exe here:

 

http://www.waldhor.com/hsql.zip

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