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14 Replies Last post: Nov 11, 2009 8:53 AM by mblachan@travelers.com  
Petrus Johansson HotShot 273 posts since
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Oct 26, 2009 2:38 AM

BMC Acquires Tideway

So... any thoughts on this?


I personally have never come across Tideway before and therefor have no idea of what the capabilities of the product are. More interesting, how will the Tidayway product fit in to ADDM or will it remain two seperate products...

The general idea of this topic was just to get some discussion about it started.

 

Press release:

http://www.bmc.com/news/press-releases/2009/bmc-software-completes-acquisition-of-tideway.html

careyw Expert 399 posts since
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1. Oct 26, 2009 3:38 AM in response to: Petrus Johansson
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

I have seen a couple of posts about Tideway - the most interesting one talked about BADDM V8 and Tideway as the same thing.

 

Interesting....

 

It as not clear whether this represented a merging of technolgies, or one (presumably Tideway) replacing the other altogether.

rasto danis Expert 973 posts since
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3. Oct 26, 2009 10:05 AM in response to: Petrus Johansson
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

i have run appliance and considered as one of

nicest software ever seen, looks very good for me, very easy implementation, very nice and fast gui, relatively small requirements, deployed as vmware appliance (already installed), ...

Andherson Participant 23 posts since
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4. Oct 27, 2009 2:38 PM in response to: rasto danis
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

Something is funny about this. Reading on Tideway sites, all they talk about is

Data Center this, Data Center that....what is up with BladeLogic. I don't understand what they are doing...

but I agree, the Dasboad on Tideway looks good (((-:

pseagers Expert 591 posts since
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5. Oct 27, 2009 4:32 PM in response to: Andherson
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

Tideway is purely a discovery tool. It can be used to analyse the systems and relationships within a data centre. Bladelogic as more of a management role. The two tools complement each other well.

 

Rgds,

 

Paul

dirk HotShot 146 posts since
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7. Oct 28, 2009 9:33 AM in response to: Petrus Johansson
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

Petrus,

 

The plan is to merge both products within the next months using the Tideway platform moving forward.

mblachan@travelers.com Participant 3 posts since
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8. Nov 6, 2009 10:43 AM in response to: dirk
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

Troubled by the differences in Tideway and Atrium CMDB data models, relationships types etc. Might be really difficult to reconcile/normalize an application dependency map created in Tideway into Atrium CMDB. How will be these differences be reconciled? WIll Tideway adopt Atrium's CIM?

dirk HotShot 146 posts since
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9. Nov 6, 2009 1:11 PM in response to: mblachan@travelers.com
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

Tideway does not have a CMDB data model. Tideway maps it's data directly to class structure within the Atrium CMDB CDM. No issue.

Chris Armstrong Expert 290 posts since
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10. Nov 6, 2009 1:45 PM in response to: Petrus Johansson
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

Has anyone seen a comparison chart for the two products:

 

  • ADDM 7.5.0
  • Tideway 8.0

 

 

 

Once they merge them (which I hope is the plan as well) it would be great to see  the VMware based solution continued. In fact, it would be really great if BMC would provide us with all of its mainline products in VMware versions for dev/test purposes.

mblachan@travelers.com Participant 3 posts since
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11. Nov 6, 2009 2:00 PM in response to: dirk
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

Tideway's database does have a data model. Unless

over the past years as an independent company they had some secret IP sharing with BMC I gotta assume the Tideway data model is differ

ent from Atrium's. That said, how does Tideway map its data "directly to class structure within the Atrium CMDB CDM" ??? Is such a mapping provided out of the box? How does Tideway's discovered relationships map to Atrium relationships types? Here's the use case: If we use Tideway to develop a complex (consisting of thousands of objects and relationships) application dependency map of a particular application, can I just export that complete model into an Atrium data set for normaliztaion and reconciliation into the Atrium CMDB? What are the considerations, thinking and planning that would need to go into such an integration? If it would great if it's a push-button integration but I'd highly doubt it!

dirk HotShot 146 posts since
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12. Nov 6, 2009 4:34 PM in response to: Chris Armstrong
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

Pretty much all of BMC's products run on VMWare so all you have to do is create a VM and install.

As far as delivering product like ADDM 8.0 which is a Virtual Appliance I am not aware of any plans to do so anytime soon.

dirk HotShot 146 posts since
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13. Nov 6, 2009 4:39 PM in response to: mblachan@travelers.com
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

ADDM 8.0 (Tideway) uses a Berkley DB and it uses taxonomy...there is no CMDB data model within ADDM 8.0.

As already mentioned ADDM 8.0 provides a CMDB integration which uses TQL/XML mapping files which are part of a mapping set that use the CMDB API to pass CI's directly to the class structure in the CDM. And yes it is OOTB with ADDM 8.0. The OOTB mapping set may not be as robust as what you want to do...but it is extensible or you can wait for the improved integration that will be delivered in ADDM 8.1.

mblachan@travelers.com Participant 3 posts since
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14. Nov 11, 2009 8:53 AM in response to: dirk
Re: BMC Acquires Tideway

thanks Dirk, feeling a bit more comfortable

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